Dave Page
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How old is Nugget?
Is Nugget leashed when this happens?
Where are you at in your obedience?
Just a consideration. If a dog presents a behavior I don’t like I try to find a way to shape it to something useful they can be praised for.
If nugget is leashed when it takes place he is providing a behavior and opportunity that could be tailored, and also rectify need to get out a fast heel etc.
(This is assuming he isn’t possessive of the stick.) Example, nugget picks up stick. Nugget “bring it,” prompt him to you with leash, then a “drop it,” or “out” command while your hand is below his mouth.
High praise when he does.
Now it’s in your hand, and you can get rid of it.
A similar situation to yours except with shoes is how Ace ended up picking things up for me if I dropped something, or carrying things for me I hand to him, and bringing my shoes in the mornings.
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Personally I like to watch exposure(socialization) until the pup has semi-bonded and is definitely past first fear stage.Being bonded to someone gives them an opportunity to look to the one they bonded to to know how to react. How long stage lasts is individual. Watching a pup it’s usually easy to tell.
Edit: I see he older than I thought.
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Art I don’t know if cdc pulled the article or cdc website down.
Even google search says no sever found.
Here’s another I did find.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210414113550.htm
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I hadn’t thought about an air horn. Thank you.
Mine should condition to it easily.
All but the pup been taken to big fireworks shows for graduation of their conditioning to gunshots. Using starter pistol probably have people thinking wrongly.
Air horn Might have added benefit of being loud enough to get owners outside. ?
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It has been interesting to observe.
I wouldn’t have thought it to add such a stress to a dog to have another mark in territory they see as their home, and have had to themselves for years. Off turf mine are rather nonchalant about it.
Two videos I posted under urban mushing I had to run dogs off both times when we got to front half of our property.
I cut it, and also quite a bit of their wanting to remark out of the footage. Luke whining was combination of him wanting to mark, and engage them. Mostly though wanting to mark. I didn’t get it all cut out.
Best I can describe: It creates an anxiousness in mine.
If I turn one loose they will run to the front half and start marking.
Let them do it for 30-60 minutes or so and they are good until they catch new marks from other dogs, or one comes to try and challenge them.
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Luke and I have been through I lot.
was the first I trained for carting after having trained him in solid obedience following all leadership protocols.
Started leadership when got him at 8 weeks and by time got the cart obedience, and leadership were so solid turned in to a few months task to counter-condition him to being out front.
Past year very little actual obedience with him. Just been trying to provide for needs.
Lost early vids and training notes in computer crash so don’t have many of him from then.
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There is an idea In back if my mind would like some input on. “Pack” strength.
I have 4 dogs that can do driving.
Only run 2 at a time because of the set up. The saving grace when groups of 3-4 dogs came out seemed to be unnaturalness of 2 dogs shoulder to shoulder moving forward confidently in purposeful unison. Noticed it made dogs hesitant to approach frontally waiting until we passed where I could deal with them. As the dog numbers increased had less effect
Now the dogos didn’t seem to care.
Not something I would ever depend on just contemplative thoughts. Every little thing could help.
When dealing with territorial aggression would strength of “pack” coming through what dogs consider their territory possibly deter them especially considering a human is with the dogs.
Think i found someone with the equipment feels confident they can extend my bars, and other tweeks to allow me to run all 4 at once.
Don’t know if it would matter to dogos or the packs of 7 and more or not.
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Appreciate everybody’s ideas.
Art Your umbrella mention has me wondering if I can make a drop down shield off the tow bars for side protection.
I’m still running scenarios.
All possible scenarios are important to address. I never considered I would ever need it but seems I do need to start carrying citronella and or weak mace at all times.
On a night walk on my fenced property with Chet off leash, no ecollar he got nipped by rat terrier. Little rat terrier came bolting out of grass clump nipped chets back leg and took off. It’s little buddy
was waiting further down and got in another nip as Chet went past it going after the first one. They kicked in his prey drive pretty hard. Chet has good recall I don’t think he could hear me over the noise those 2 were making.
Been working on educating it’s not cruel to keep a dog in a pen, yard, tie out something as long as give them free time because they can get in trouble on their own.
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Weird. Still says no such server for me. At least I finally find the article. Thanks for posting.
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Good suggestions Art.
Without getting too deep.
Dog containment is A multi-faceted political hotbed issue locally and in the state. No town where I cart has jurisdiction and We are about 150k population short of anything other than state mandated legislation
I got Luke 5 years ago. I took dogs to work then, and with me since being self-employed, and used to let them off leash, and work with them, or have them helping, just made sure they stayed close. Had Lexi dig a hole under deck for me last week to lay drain pipe.
Dog freedom I guess is bit of tourist draw. Past couple years I still take them but now have to keep them secured, in sight, make sure they don’t get advanced on, or charged while their back is turned by a dog as almost happened with a little terrier last week.
I do think unique situation may be advantageous when I get ready to take clients though.
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Judy,
It’s great. Very succinct. I was one jotting down quick thoughts without having enough coffee for thoughts to coalesce, and forgot to say I really like the clarity, and thanks for bringing it up. My apologies if came across as otherwise.
You bringing it up helped me realize what I would need to do regarding local situation; I.e. add section for any clients of mine outlining containment, plus educate why it is of necessity, which they must agree to for safety of dog and others.
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I’m at a loss considering I want to start training. We’re a rural area with no containment or leash laws unless a dog has been legally deemed dangerous or aggressive this my reply to your post in code of conduct.
The dogos were the closest call and bit of surprise. I had no idea anyone in our area had any. Fist time actually seeing any in person. I do know they meant business.
Multiple breeds and mixed breeds.
Many of the owners live far enough off the road they likely couldn’t even hear their dogs if they are inside. One owner lives close enough he saw and I call him if he is home to let him know so he can put his dogs up.
It’s more than him. For a 2 mile run one direction there are 10 residents 8 of which have multiple dogs ranging from 2 to 7 dogs.
That’s not counting packs we occasionally run across ranging across fields from residents in directions I don’t go a mile away. Seeing them recently chase someones dog across field behind my house is what prompted my post as well as your post in code of conduct where I stated we have had 2 people killed in past couple years in my section of the county, within 10 miles of us but different “townships” by free ranging packs of dogs.
It was an issue, but really just started becoming a problem for us past 6-8 months or so.
I’ve held off getting and using paint balls despite court liaison telling me to go for it even though it wouldn’t physically harm them because it wouldn’t look good with me wanting to go in to training, or make for a good community relations.
I know the sheriffs department here has used paint balls in the past for dogs chained to a front door if they are serving a warrant to prevent killing the dogs.
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I do like this portion in the about section:
“<b style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;”>Who We Are
IAABC members believe in the study and science of behavior consulting. We understand that animal behavior consultants can assist owners in managing and modifying problem behaviors, and in the process help strengthen the relationships between an owner and pet.”
I looked and may have missed it, but in the other 2 I never saw such a statement.
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Regarding 7: Glad you brought it up.
I may be odd one out due to location. Probably not something most trainers will ever have to deal with.
Although most would expect clients to manage; However is a minimal containment requirement for clients something we should place in code of conduct?
People have seen me working with mine in the past and asked me to train theirs. I know they don’t all have their dogs in yards from what they have said.
Perhaps at least a fenced yard, kennel, dog run or tie out?
I ask because so many moving from the city to the country where I live let dogs run free. To the extent I have stopped carting past certain distance until i figure something to protect my dogs.
I would necessarily require a common sense standard regarding containment before working with a client otherwise I feel it would be negligent of me, as well as wasting a clients money.
Lax containment regulations and overall decline in respect has led to Free-ranging fad has resultsed in 2 deaths locally in past couple years. Only one close town has a leash law.
Excluding the larger towns what I found so far it is only dogs deemed dangerous which require containment inside a fence thus there are many running semi-feral.
I know for most of us it is simple common respect for neighbors and community…
Just a thoughts running through my head and probably outside scope of code of conduct.