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  • Dave Page

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    September 7, 2023 at 5:23 pm in reply to: You guys!!! She did it!!
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    What do you mean Counter conditioning?

    Was Roo afraid of it, or run to it?

  • Dave Page

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    August 15, 2023 at 11:59 pm in reply to: Dogs and geese.
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    😂 The dark ones are toulouse.

    The whites are embdens.

    Edit: thinking the geese may be training me though. 🤔😁

  • Dave Page

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    August 14, 2023 at 8:17 pm in reply to: No Dogs Were Hurt Making This Video. But Children Were.
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    Ouch

  • Dave Page

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    August 9, 2022 at 6:16 pm in reply to: Dog incessant barking
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    I hadn’t thought to look at it as anxiety was thinking frustration due to type of bark. He does as @Mike said eury does.

    Gives me something to think about. It did get worse when moved the kennel where he could better see what we were doing

    Wife said he’s quiet all day, and only does it when I’m home and outside. It is worse when he can see me but not get to me.

    As for giving him something to do, he doesn’t show much interest anything other than big bone.

    As for his chain link fence reaction it’s only when driving/traveling so it’s tolerable.

    He has ~200sf of kennel space plus dog house attached on outside.

  • Dave Page

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    August 6, 2022 at 5:19 pm in reply to: No log in.
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    No problems with iPhone, or Microsoft on desktop.

    Just MacBook

    I have removed all cookies, cleared cache, and history.

    Still getting same thing.

    Everything on it is up to date.

    Links that work, k9-1 in upper left, find a dog trainer, and the enroll.

    Links that give “got lost” are “about k9-1 and log in link.

  • Dave Page

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    March 8, 2022 at 6:30 pm in reply to: High Drive Puppy and manners (what to train first)
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    If working with a high drive hunting line, not familiar with dog breed you have, some hunting breeds need time to settle in and bond.

    My curs need a couple weeks as puppies. If older need quite a bit longer.

    Play works well.

    Need to a semi-solid idea of end goal then figure a way to incorporate the beginning parts of your goals into the play session.

    For One of mine was to bring carry things for me. (Bring squirrel or whatever to me) Started with play sessions with picking up objects being ready to catch as soon as it was dropped and praising for it, quickly progressing to doing same with my shoes, and having move farther distance. I switched what we were working on often during a session.

    I use a philosophy that every interaction, play, petting, etc with a puppy is training and proceed accordingly.

    They also need lots of mental stimulation.

    Like I said not familiar with your breed it could be the intensity of exercise and amount of mental stimulation may not be enough for it which I see you mentioned.

    Maybe a food filled kong to get it to settle?

    Most hunting line dogs that use sight as well as Nose are rather impulsive, ready to go at a moment’s notice, and some have been known to go until they drop/run themselves to death. 12 +hrs baying a hog is a long time.

    Maybe I provided you with some useable information.

  • Dave Page

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    November 16, 2021 at 9:47 am in reply to: Possible: calmness amidst provocation?
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    One of the things I did in the beginning was sit with them in parking lots, Ace is one who needed it the most, rewarding calm/proper behavior.
    He got where people even leaned against the truck and he wouldn’t react.

    Socialization through obedience training in businesses that allowed it, and all the environments I could.
    Looking back my mistake’s leaving him on his own in the truck while I went in a store yet he can be seen.

    Dawned on me; even though dark, and mirror tinting is illegal, if I could find removable window shades so people can’t see in “Out of sight, out of mind” scenario. Gonna look in to it. Maybe it’d help. Either that or they gonna have to stay home. These guys don’t take change very well. Breaking the patterns and Having to leave them at home so much lately I think is one of the reasons for their some of their acting out past couple months.


  • Dave Page

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    November 14, 2021 at 12:16 pm in reply to: Possible: calmness amidst provocation?
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    I do realize much will depend on breed and temperament of the dog. Most of mine usually have the attitude, leave me alone I leave you alone.

    I spent hours sitting in parking lots, rewarding the right behaviors for them to learn not everything is a threat, and sit peacefully while people pull in, get out of their vehicle right next to us, only to have it undone in 15 minutes, or so while I’m in a store. One of mine likes to rest his head, on the door panel next to the window, and I have seen people notice him there when they are getting in their vehicle, and bark at him thinking it funny when he comes alive, or comment dog’s vicious because it reacted. I’ve had to intervene, and try to educate many times. Personally I feel it is tantamount to teasing, and considering whether it would even be ethical to condition a guardian type breed to not react in such an instance, as it goes against nature.

    Trying to figure out if there is a way to condition, that wouldn’t be so time consuming, or something that could be done in early life so a dog wouldn’t be so hypervigilant and overly reactive, for the next week or so afterwards. Usually after an incident they will start seeing anyone even getting near as a threat, and overreact.

  • Dave Page

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    August 16, 2023 at 8:54 pm in reply to: Dogs and geese.
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    They’re bold.

    I snuck off one day while were out eating.

    About 20 minute later decided should check on them. They had decided to come find me, went around fence, and snuck right up to a sleepy Chet, on his cable run, and fixing to go after his unaware wagging tail.

    That wouldn’t have been good for him to be surprised by tail being bit.

    The goose/dog combo keeping me on my toes and is a comedic, relaxation.

  • Dave Page

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    March 14, 2022 at 10:21 am in reply to: Brain storming snippets.
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    Your statement “never want your dog to have to advocate for herself” with brief explanation would be an awesome one.

    Thinking snippets probably have to be longer than 30 seconds.

    (Sat watching pack movement, and patterns for a while this morning. Would be neat to observe more often how they condense, reconnoiter, search, call one another, and regroup if they hadn’t gotten/wouldn’t get so dangerous.

    Searched for calf, tried to separate one from momma but cows called each other and grouped closer, and deciding they were out matched this go round.

    At least none found way through my fence today.

    If pattern continues they’ll be back day after tomorrow.)

    Trying to figure direction they may live. Heading out at different times and different directions. Don’t think all belong to same people.

  • Dave Page

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    March 12, 2022 at 9:46 am in reply to: High Drive Puppy and manners (what to train first)
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    I should have said the punishment portion of the article isn’t recommended. That can create a Chet type dog who’s always stressing it’s going to get in trouble, and going into defensive mode. FSDT all the way. My fault.

    Each is going to be an individual and have to work with it based on that.

    Micro-lessons incorporated in the play. Pre-Mack city!

    Playing tug example: an out, a quick sit, even if just couple seconds then a release to continue. Gradually extend the time.

    First couple months with mine obedience training was all incorporated into play, none was traditional obedience due to the energy.

    Gotta think outside the box. Something might try that worked with one of mine to burn off energy and as bonding exercise:

    Once had him doing a decent down would walk off (5 yards in beginning to 15 yards to 100 yards) give a “come” command and start running. Once he caught up we would run a bit more, stop and lots of praise, or run and grab a tug and go into tug play. Repeat. Several sprints like that throughout the day burns some energy.

    Try to set them up for success by watching body language and give the come command before they would come out of the down



  • Dave Page

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    November 16, 2021 at 10:50 am in reply to: Possible: calmness amidst provocation?
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    I’ve had a few issues over the past 10-15 years. They were few and far between. Had more this year alone than had in my first 45 years.

    I’m Learning to protect, protect, protect, hypervigilance.

    Any idea where the labeling of a dog as vicious, if it won’t tolerate provocation, came from?

  • Dave Page

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    November 15, 2021 at 3:58 pm in reply to: Possible: calmness amidst provocation?
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    If it’s warm weather usually leave truck running and a/c on unless I’m within sight. Used to clip them to truck on 15 foot lead, but had to stop that as well. Seen as open invitation to pet.

    (Funny story, and valuable lesson for me from few years back.

    Was working on pressure washing a cabin in bfe. Had Chet with me letting him run cause he won’t get far from me, deadend road, fall weather, no rented cabins close. I ran out of gas. When I got gas can out my truck guy standing in back of his pickup across the road asked me to come over. He owned cabin he was parked at and decided to make a trip up. When I called Chet to a heel the guy flew back into bed of his truck.

    He had tried to come over where I was, said he saw working dog signs, and dog but thought they were just show. 😂 Chet never bit him, but bayed him back, then laid down behind my work truck to watch him.

    Man didn’t say, and i don’t recall asking how long he had been in the back of his pickup waiting for me. He said I hit your dog, but he stopped when I got back past middle of road.

    But I guess he wasn’t going to take chance.)

    I’m 50+, almost always had a dog, and never had to deal with what experiencing now.

    I probably just need to accept, for now it is what it has become, tourist area is no longer compatible/safe area to carry my dogs with me. May not be fair to the dogs who are used to going several times week but safer for them.

    At livestock auction last week, out of 60+ vehicles 10 or so had dogs either in trailers, back of pickups, or in cab. No one paid attention to them.

    I’ve had occasional issues over the years but not more than I could tolerate. Our State never shut down, and people from areas that did lock down flocked in, and with it came more provocation towards my dogs, more close calls than I could tolerate.

    Edit: dogs are considered personal property here and last I looked illegal to break out a window to get them and we can legally have dogs in front.

    My lesson: Signs don’t mean nothing to some folk so plan accordingly. 😂

  • Dave Page

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    November 14, 2021 at 1:22 am in reply to: Possible: calmness amidst provocation?
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    Although I’m getting in the habit, I didn’t normally lock my truck so most could have easily let them out if they thought they were “rescuing.”

    In 5 years, only a couple I’ve seen, and watched, thought they were trying to “rescue.” Clients kid wanted to open door to say hello.

    Lot of it’s been plain aggravation such as, barking, or lunging towards + barking at the dogs etc. one of several instances i pulled up to a store one day, someone walking out saw him in truck, and started barking at him while walking by. Maybe it’s some kind of new challenge or something I don’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • Dave Page

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    November 10, 2021 at 8:30 pm in reply to: Ideas for Protecting my dogs.
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    I think I finally found a 6foot.
    Been trying to find a luge with a 6 foot pole to reach past my dogs head just in case another incident like the last one that day.

    Plus I can use to put a flashing light on and hold in the air to warn cars coming over hills .

    Things we do to enjoy time with out dogs 😀

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