Allie Dellosa
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At first I guess it is like the shot is the marker, but eventually we will delay the reward and the expectations are for her to not really care about it, just like we did with the Byrna.
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I think it would be cool to have an explanation of what the lesson is and why we want to teach to it (conditioning a response) and how we know its working before seeing you drill it.
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I agree, dogs have very similar emotions and emotional responses to stimuli as humans do. We care about the same things socially and personally. The difference in communicative efforts being mislabeled (and sometimes vilified) paired with the human ego create a handicap in cohesive existence. People tend to vilify and dumb down what they don’t understand. Creating relatable analogies for clients is helpful for some, but some people are results oriented rather than experience oriented and that can cause problems in all sorts of relationships. Anthropomorphism is a helpful and ethnologically correct tool (I find) for creating empathetic and compassionate training plans. I like your explanation here @Art
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This is a really cool thread to read. Very thoughtful and interesting! Do you guys have videos of you working your dogs? I would love to watch them.
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Yes, I have experienced older animals exhibit changes to responses to stimuli as they experience sensory changes.
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She repeated the name command because Zelda made an effort on the first name command, then mom stepped forward and Zelda fell behind out of the pocket and so she gave the command again. @Jared I think I missed what your initial question was. Sorry! Overthinking might be my super power 💜🐾
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I agree, especially for clients who are learning as they teach their dogs. But its very important to me that the dogs know exactly when corrections and then punishment does and doesn’t happen. It adds alot of depth to the relationship too
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If we have to repeat ourselves we usually add a prompt to help. I have not had any issues, as long as the name always means a command will follow. It’s like starting command structure over every rep. I have noticed that this streamlines the predictability of when correction do and don’t come, and it makes it easy for the handler to maintain a predictable pattern of communication that matches the mechanics. If we repeat the command without the name and they sometimes get a correction and sometimes don’t, this can cause side effects because it is not predictable ie: leash chomping, calming signals, slower progress, shorter sessions and sometimes handler redirection.
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Phase 1 command structure is “name command”, “name command”… because they are not receiving a physical correction. We set the expectation that when they hear their name they don’t have to worry. This is especially helpful when teams are drilling multiple commands in multiple phases. It keeps corrections from becoming unpredictable. No leash so we can easily add distance and then off leash play premack. This dog is very interested in working for her mom so no need for it here.
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I love nerding out with with you guys. Something to consider about removing food from dog’s ownership zone is that it doesn’t affiliate with dominance or leadership and may cause side effects. Just like removing food from a child does not prove that they are subordinate, resource guarding is not a dominance display or a punishable offense in canine culture (though dominant dogs are more likely to advocate for themselves) a puppy can resource guard against its parent who provided the food without recourse. I believe Mike discusses this in his Pack Structure Lecture but it is def in the Mech studies.
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The definition of relaxed is free from tension….a high tail doesn’t mean necessarily that the dog is tense, or that there is dominance conflict. I like to see my dogs with tails slightly elevated, showing engagement/ confidence, especially during work and training. It’s really about context and a lot of it can be genetic. Some dogs genetically have a higher tail carriage than others. Stephen Lindsay talks about dogs being unsure, often just because they lack competence in certain areas.
The drives lecture is really helpful for understand the the dogs innate features and the emotional responses thereby. https://dogtraining.world/knowledge-base/balancing-the-drives-5-0/
This is a fabulous video to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VniCnrUyTQ0&list=PLCrBM9zH5UyRXMF7EjD-ibi7wpzP–9_D&index=6
Also this: https://dogtraining.world/knowledge-base/aggression-drives/
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I agree context is helpful. Something to consider: if I showed you a picture of my brother, you could probably guess his emotional state in the picture….based on his expressions etc. but would you be able to tell me what kind of person he is?
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Some things to think about: Can a dominant or confident dog be calm and relaxed?
Can a scared or submissive dog be assertive and fight forward?
Do dogs exhibit different emotional responses to different stimulation? Do dogs exhibit different emotional responses to different social and/or personal relationships? Do their perceptions change as they have varied experiences (with or without intentional human interaction)?