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My goal is to do a retrieve after fire. A formal retrieve into heel, paired with trap shooting (clay targets). I want to prove to myself that it can be done without degrading the relationship or treating the dog like a disposable tool. This is not a toy she plays with, but she is playful so I doubt it will matter what toy we use, I think in the end we would have had to work through this one way or another. I’m actually glad she wants to play with it because I can use play as Premack principle when we are out in a place that has squirrels and lizards…..or hunting them can be Premack 😂