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MemberJanuary 18, 2013 at 4:29 pm
Sure, Sorry for the long break. I was in Shanghai for the winter.
Here are pictures of Kinu.
I was able to find out that she is low to no wolf content. She is mainly Husky with a full size of about 60 lbs. I think its exactly what you said as far as people breeding for looks and ignoring other characteristics.
After continuing to work with her, she had improved a great deal when it comes to being freaked out. She still freaks out, but she doesn’t pee (most of the time). She still is hesitant, and wont play games. But shes much more bold than before, she will roam around the house and approach people she didn’t used to. And usually hang out in the living room in there are people there.
Although I’m still having great issues with come when shes outside. (inside she does great) Even with phase one, if she is outside, she just doesn’t want to come. She’ll come just outta arms reach and bolt if i try and treat&leash her. I left the leash out of it, and she still wont come with treats alone. I did try luring her in with a trail closer and closer, but she’ll get to the same spot and bolt.
MemberDecember 7, 2012 at 2:24 pm
Just been calling around to Wolf rescues, Trying to get information about what I could do.
i finally tracked down someone with credibility (a leading expert in specifically wolves and wolfdogs) who was willing to help, and I asked him to identify Kinu. Apparently I have a low content wolfdog which is believed to be 0 to 50% (because is actually no way to tell percentages with the pedigree method). He believes the other content to be mainly husky. He informed me a large amount of breeders make things that look like wolves through combining malamutes, huskys other things. He believed Kinu does have wolf in her but not much.
Maybe this changes the scenario a bit far as training approach or management. He said alot of the behavior i described here is also common across the norther breed dogs.
She is still responding very well to training. Still in beginning phases of phase 2. She had climb down in 6 min.
He also sternly corrected me and told me that there is no such thing as a wolf hybrid because in 1992 scientists determined that wolves and dogs are the same species and a hybrid is a cross between two different species.
MemberNovember 28, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Thanks for your reply! I expected many of these difficulties. I am hoping that after most my training is complete it will help a bunch.
I have done close to 3 and a half years of research prior to getting Kinu(my wolf hybrid) and had anticipated most of these.
I was wondering if you have had any such difficulties with Elu, and if so how did you and the owner approach the situation?
MemberNovember 26, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Thank you! I will stop all phase two until climb phase 1 is mastered.
Haha, here we will get to the root of my issue. I have a primitive canine.
1) 96% wolf/husky hybrid. Obtained in east TX. Since many of the posts, tips and training refer to wolves, and you have done such good work with Elu I hope you can help.
2) Flight avoidance and submissive urination is high around new people, new things and loud abrupt noises. Around people she is familiar with she is calm, and will walk around the house, approach people and is usually not startled by loud noises from us. Exception: if we are holding something new and it makes a noise (magazine, newspaper, wearing boots) or if we are in something that covers our full body (fatigues, or suits). She is most comfortable in a corner, couch/wall corner, or anywhere that has three sides and she does not need to watch her back. Towards all dogs she is supper excited, like a different animal. She will go crazy and be a ball of energy. She is always the most submissive animal in all interactions. Alway happy and submissive. Even if the dog is the size of a computer mouse (litterly happened) she will be submissive and excited towards it.
3)she is not spayed
4)I have been told She will immediately look for me and attempt to come after me. She may whine a bit then continue what she was doing. If I am away for more than a few hours she will hide under the bed or in her crate and only come out for meals. This is strange to me because when I am home she seems indifferent. She may or may not greet me. When I am home she may prefer to be in her crate still, sometimes roams around the house and up to people. (i’ll normaly shut her out of my room so she has to be social) She may come sit next to me, or may sit somewhere else. It appears to me like my presence is indifferent to her. Usually only excited if she is about to be fed, thinks shes going outside or while training. But nothing close to as excited as playing with other dogs.
Petting: Petting and praise doesn’t seem to be important to her. she will not come to me just for that reason, but she does approach me for no reason. She does not seem as excited. Either no tail wag or very tiny swooshy tail wag, as compared to playing with other dogs she has full side to side tail wag full of excitement, running, playing, jumping, chasing. Anytime she comes whether i call her or not, i will make her sit and giver her up to no more than 10 sec of praise and petting. I also don’t know how to gauge when not to pet her so it becomes something she works for. It feels like I already don’t do it enough.
I currently interact through feedings, at least a training session a day if not two (furthermore living the steps of the pyramid more than anything else), walks every other day, i’ll pet her if i see her. I try to play with her with something that will exhaust her restless spirit like fetch or tug but with no luck. (little or no interest in engaging) I have been successful with hide and seek. I’ll have her sit, go hide, and tell her to come. She likes that one. She is very good at training and appears to enjoy it and problem solving. But still far less or little excitement when it comes humans. Around all dogs she is a ball of excitement, just the happiest thing on the planet.