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So a condition Punisher is the same as a conditioned reinforcer in that or a bridge if you would. A condition Punisher tells the dog if you keep doing this you’re going to get your primary Punisher. So in reward training we say good dog and give them or we click and give the treat whichever that the good dog in the click is your conditioned reinforcer and Punishment you know you have leave it you can use a certain other word and that means if you don’t stop then you’re going to get your other Punisher your actual punisher. It’s still avoidance conditioning it’s just got an extra step in it. Think about when you’re training a dog on an invisible fence. When the dog gets close to the perimeter it gets a beep and when it keeps going it gets shocked the beep is a conditioned Punisher saying if you don’t stop moving forward you’re going to get shocked
