journal-2016-03-23-maverick

Hey Guys, was doing alittle flirt pole work with my 5 month old Dogo. Any advice or criticism would be greatly appreciated. Daily I continue to work on his obedience as well in addition to working on his prey drive. I plan on doing more personal protection with him so i wanna make sure I’m building him up correctly.

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  1. Ryan, there is much to critique here mostly because if you were looking to do some kind of sport work like Schutzhund this would be ok mostly (besides the part about the out by agitator).

    BUT, if you want to do personal protection training this training will actually confuse him to thinking “watch him” will mean someone is going to play a game with him. I am going to start filling in the proper steps in the personal protection checklist soon, so it is a lot of steps. too much to write in a single comment, but here are the main pointers that will be counter-productive that i see in the video

    1. “watch him” should be reserved for when there is something truly suspicious that you want to encourage a true defensive bark from.

    2. I would never desensitize a dog to a stick hit by making him think it is something harmless. This is done in sport work because they want dogs to keep a calm full mouth bite while the dog takes two stick hits with a padded stick that doesn’t even hurt. This will set your dog up for someone to get a free hit on him and surprise the hell out of him in a real situation when he suddenly realizes that bad guys do mean harm and not just playing a game.

    3. If doing personal protection training i wouldn’t have the person playing the role as the agitator “out” the dog. The handler should not ever player agitator either. You can do “outs” with the dog while playing tug and other games, but it should not mimic what would look like a protection set up. You never want the dog to think he is supposed to loosen a grip based on what the agitator is telling him.

    4. I see you are encouraging the bark to make the tug move. This is to encouraging bark due to barrier frustration. This is needed for sport work since the dogs are fully on prey drive and dont feel threatened, so it is needed for barks and holds etc… I don’t see the harm in doing it when playing with the dog, but i never found it necessary when doing real training. when you do real “watch ’em”s he will do a real bark anyway. If he is really frustrated because he cant get to something he will also bark. Like i said, no harm in doing it, but you will see it isn’t necessary and can sometime turn into a pain in the butt when you want the dog to be quiet when you “shut the dog off” after a bite.

    What i would recommend is to play without the backtie. When he bites you can keep pressure on the tug and pet him and tell him he is a “good boy” so he knows it is a game. Then if you want to teach him basics of fighting back “as a game” actually give him little slaps on the side and when he counters praise him and give him the tug or let him have it mostly while you hang onto the rope end and then bring him back in and play some more. This way when you put him against an agitator and you are holding the leash you can pet him and be on the same side as him, when the agitator hits him, he knows what to do from you and you praise him when he does correctly. The same eventually goes for the stick. Don’t pet him with it… HIT him with it lol… just not that hard in the beginning but hard enough where he wants you to stop and tries a counter to make you stop. You can also go the style of teaching him to disabe the weapon which is best done at this age. If you want to do that let me know..

  2. excellent, i actually watched alot of your videos of you doing the trasfer with other tugs. while he is biting one tug in comes the next tug so he learns to go for that threat. i will keep up with what you had advised. thanks again!!

  3. Well, it can be ….just not when used in that way…Hopefully when Mike gets a chance he will put up some detailed step by steps for protection work. Can be a little complicated at times since there’s a lot of little things that all create the bigger picture. Keep watching close eyes on our protection videos, starting with the puppy ones. (and thats not just cause my boy as a pup is in it πŸ˜‰ You’ll start to pick up a lot of little things from all of the videos if you really pay attention. You’ll pick up things from the handlers, the agitators, and direction you hear Mike give in the background… and remember to keep asking questions constantly!

    1. i started working more with the tugs and actually using 2 like mike had told me before….introducing the second as if it was coming in to hit him and he releases the other and goes for the one coming to smack him.

  4. Keep staying involved guys, the more we collaborate as a community the better, We are all here for the same purpose. To love our dogs, better them and better ourselves for them! Sharing with one another and commenting helps everyone learn together.